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Date:  Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:32:19 +0800
From:  "RunningToddler" <amkt@apcwomen.org>
Subject:  [communication 773] Fw: John's note on Civil Society Plenary
To:  "AP WSIS Caucus" <communication@wsisasia.org>
Message-Id:  <012301c3524c$98df50b0$578e063d@kryssq1o9vc6nq>
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Hello everyone,

I thought it best to share this with the caucus. I think it's important =
to understand the context and I will be next forwarding Sean's five =
points as mentioned in his e-mail below. I seek your views on this =
matter and if as Asia Pacific, we would like to support Sean's call.

Warm regards,

Angela

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Sean O Siochru=20
To: bureau@geneva2003.org ; bureau@wsis-cs.org=20
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:44 PM
Subject: John's note on Civil Society Plenary=20


To:  Members of the Bureau,

I totally agree with Renata that we need to build on trust in the =
Bureau.  But this is also why I believe that John Gagain is severely out =
of order in the note he has sent around to Bureau members, to the CS =
Plenary List and to the Content Themes Group list.   I do not at all =
question his motives, but trust also involves respecting previous =
decisions and working from the same basics.=20

John has stated in no uncertain terms (copied below) that he believes =
that the Civil Society Plenary, as it has been constituted at WSIS =
meetings, does not in fact exist, and that (if it did) it has no =
authority to take decisions on behalf of civil society.=20

I was not at the Bureau meeting and have not seen the minutes, so I =
cannot comment on the issue of Chairing the Bureau.  But I do believe =
that it is entirely out of order for any member, let alone a purported =
Co-Chairperson, of the Civil Society Bureau to claim that the entity =
from which the Bureau ultimately derives its legitimacy does not exist.  =


Such a statement, especially made so publicly by the purported Chair of =
the Bureau, is highly provocative and risks discrediting the entire =
efforts of civil society to develop a credible and coherent presence at =
the WSIS.

I believe that the Bureau must disassociate ourselves clearly from this =
statement, in equally certain terms.  I greatly regret that John has =
sent this around, and I believe it will inevitably damage the =
credibility of the Bureau in the eyes of civil society.

In another note that I am sending in response to John on the other =
lists, I note five points that I thought had been agreed between us all. =
 I believe that the Bureau must also affirm these, or similar. We must =
work from the same assumptions if we, and civil society as a whole,  is =
to retain credibility.=20

Sean=20

John wrote (my bold):=20
  1.. CS Information Session and Debriefing There does not exist a forum =
at the WSIS referred to as "Civil Society Plenary", nor was there ever =
one at any other U.N. sponsored Summit in the past. A Plenary signifies =
a fixed group of members or member states and the actual official =
definition is: 1. Complete in all respects, unlimited or full: a =
diplomat with plenary powers, 2. Fully attended by all qualified =
members: a plenary session of the council.  As you can see, Civil =
Society does not fulfill this definition or its prerequisites. =20
  b.. ...=20
  c.. ... as I mention above, there is no CS Plenary; and especially not =
one that makes decisions on behalf of Civil Society.  This idea would =
never work especially due to the fact that the composition of Civil =
Society at the WSIS is always changing from meeting-to-meeting, =
session-to-session; and is never consistent.  Please see the definition =
of Plenary above.=20



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