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Date:  Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:10:29 +0800
From:  Mavic <mavic@isiswomen.org>
Subject:  [communication 462] Re: procedure is fine
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Hello Sacha,

I agree with the procedure and will try to catch up and put in my 
contribution following the suggested sched.

Cheers,

Mavic
At 03:06 PM 1/24/03 +0700, you wrote:
>Hi Mavic,
>
>Hope you have received my letter to the mail list discribing follow-up 
>procedure for revising/endorsing the statement. You might have left the 
>meeting before then but to recap, later in the wrap up session we agreed 
>that the content group (via Chun/myself) would collect any additional 
>suggestions for revision up to Fri 24 (since moved to Mon 27). The content 
>group will then work together to incorporate them and circulate to the 
>mail list by Friday Jan 31 or possibly Monday Feb 3 for those who have not 
>yet endorsed.
>
>If anyone wishes to share/discuss their suggestions for revisions they can 
>post to the mail list but should definitely send to Chun/myself. If you 
>have any other suggestions/additions for the revision process you are more 
>than welcome to add to it, but I think that whatever we do, the strong 
>consensus at the warp up meeting is that the follow up and finalization 
>should stick to the deadlines we have agreed to (though I have shifted it 
>just a teeny bit to compensate for some delay).
>
>Please let me know if this a reasonable procedure or you would like to 
>share other inputs.
>
>Sacha
>
>
>
>
>Mavic wrote:
>>  Dear all,
>>
>>I also would like to join everyone in thanking Yumiko, Izumi, and Adam 
>>for coordinating the AP NGO  efforts in Tokyo. It's no joke organising 
>>such event especially in a situation where NGO participation is put under 
>>serious questions.
>>
>>Thanks too to everyone who contributed and participated in all the NGO 
>>activities in Tokyo. It was a pleasure meeting all of you.
>>
>>On another note, I know that Malaysiakini is back online but I guess it 
>>is not too late to say our piece as APNGOCC. We can draft a statement 
>>condemning the raid and circulate it as widely as possible and perhaps 
>>publish it in Malaysiakini itself. What do people think?
>>
>>As well, I share Serena's concern on how are we going to proceed with 
>>finalising the NGO response to the Tokyo declaration.
>>
>>Warm regards,
>>
>>Mavic
>>
>>At 05:05 PM 1/20/03 +0800, you wrote:
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>Greetings and hope all is fine with you.
>>>
>>>I really enjoyed working with all of you (particularly the working 
>>>group) and appreciate your openness in welcoming someone new like me to 
>>>your community. I would like to thank you also for your support to the 
>>>participation of mine and NGOs from Taiwan. I hope that I was more 
>>>constructive rather than disruptive to the working group :-> It was a 
>>>pity though that I had to give up further discussion on the NGO response 
>>>to the Tokyo Declaration in the end to deal with China/Taiwan issue.
>>>
>>>Like what Bobby said, it would be too difficult to name everyone that I 
>>>should express my gratitude to. Therefore, I'd just say that I thank all 
>>>whom I met in this regional conference for your recommendations and 
>>>feedback that inspired me.
>>>
>>>On the other hand,  I still have to say in particular that I admire  and 
>>>have learned from Chun's persistence, Arfa's calmness, John's precision, 
>>>Satcha's prudence and Bobby's full grasp of the situation when working 
>>>with the NGO working groups.  I also would like to express my gratitude 
>>>to Isumi, Adam, Hamada, Al and other staff of the GLOCOM, who tried 
>>>their best to ensure civil society's engagement in the conference. Your 
>>>hard work is highly appreciated and deserves our claps.
>>>
>>>Hope that by learning from the experiences at this regional conference, 
>>>civil society's engagement would be even more dynamic and efficient in 
>>>other upcoming WSIS related events.
>>>
>>>Other than expressing gratitude to all of you, I'd also like to ask a 
>>>question in relation to the NGO response to the Tokyo declaration. As 
>>>most of us from the content group at present of the meeting to review 
>>>civil society's participation volunteered to work on the revision of the 
>>>response, I wonder how the revision and relevant discussion should take 
>>>place online?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Serena/Taiwan Association for Human Rights
>>>(O)886-2-2363-9787
>>>(F)886-2-2363-6102
>>>Email: <mailto:fauves77@hotmail.com>fauves77@hotmail.com
>>>URL: <http://www.tahr.org.tw>http://www.tahr.org.tw
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Bobby Garcia" <<mailto:bobgar@pacific.net.ph>bobgar@pacific.net.ph>
>>>To: <<mailto:communication@wsisasia.org>communication@wsisasia.org>
>>>Cc: "ASPBAE" <<mailto:aspbae@vsnl.com>aspbae@vsnl.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:15 PM
>>>Subject: [communication 309] thanks, it was all worth it
>>>
>>> > Dear Everyone,
>>> >
>>> > I also would like to convey my sincerest acknowledgment to all the 
>>> people
>>> > who made civil society participation in the WSIS Asia Forum a worthwhile
>>> > experience. Particular mention to my colleagues at the Content group, 
>>> whose
>>> > members developed a natural, spontaneous cohesion that made it an 
>>> effective,
>>> > pro-active team. Chun's leadership and Sacha's quietly strong, reliable
>>> > presence; Serena's infectious verve, Arfa's initiative, John's sharp
>>> > erudition; and I'm sure my own ridiculous sense of humor have all
>>> > contributed to its synergy.
>>> >
>>> > I mentioned it already in our assessment, but I just would like to 
>>> reiterate
>>> > here as well my recognition of Glocom's effort to expand civil 
>>> society space
>>> > and participation in the WSIS Asia Forum, and their efforts to keep 
>>> us up to
>>> > speed every minute. Thanks thus to Izumi and Adam, with the responsible
>>> > shopkeeping of Al (to whom I  would like to apologize again for 
>>> snapping up
>>> > in one of those stressful moments).
>>> >
>>> > It is impossible for me to name everyone who contributed here, so I
>>> > wouldn't. Enough for me to say that despite the problems and 
>>> limitations of
>>> > the formal WSIS process (or maybe because of them), we rose to the 
>>> occasion.
>>> >
>>> > We also had shortcomings as NGOs to be sure -- a lot, in fact -- but 
>>> with
>>> > good judgment, proper perspective, much goodwill and a dose of rock and
>>> > roll, I'm sure we'll do even better next time.
>>> >
>>> > I will be at PrepCom 2 most likely, and the lessons we had here I'll 
>>> try my
>>> > best not to go to waste.
>>> >
>>> > Great to meet you all.
>>> >
>>> > Bobby
>>> >