Thank you Sasha for this.
The parameters that you set, limited to NGOs, open, media groups but no
businesses are good.
I would add that it governmental or inter-governmental agencies should not
participate in this space. The other criteria that would be useful is to
have it be region specific, so that those who are from outside the region
who participate will know that it is a space where the specific concerns of
Asia (Pacific?) are discussed.
In terms of how we decide, yes, the Outreach group can do the initial
clearance i guess, but I imagine this would be time consuming initially....
More on other matters,
susanna
At 12:44 PM 12/6/02 +0700, you wrote:
>Hi Tony, all,
>
>Trying to keep this short but need to contextualize situation so that I
>can make
>a (hopefully) coherent answer for people who are trying to follow:
>
>1. Presently the majority of those who are on the communications@wsisasia.org
>mail list are people who attended the Bangkok workshop. I did not include
>UNESCO
>and ITU among the list when I initially sent to Hamada for set up. This was in
>consideration to some suggestions that we should focus on NGOs. However, this
>did not imply strict criteria as presently other non-NGO ie Adam, Izumi and
>Charlotte are on the list. Others have recently been added to the list as
>proposed by present members though I don't have info on who they are.
>
>2. There is no clear and firm consensus among us for the criteria in
>joining as
>yet, it seems to be developing in response to ongoing suggestions. As
>mentioned
>above, at first there were some suggestions to focus on NGO membership but
>with
>additional input the suggestions have developed to an open list--though
>how open
>has not been discussed in detail among us.
>
>As you mention, the outreach group did recognize the wide scope of civil
>society
>but we did not reach any conclusions for clear criteria. As a compromise then,
>we discussed the idea that we should at least have some knowledge of who joins
>hence suggestion of having subscribers give basic info like name, contact
>address and brief description of org. This has recently evolved to my
>suggestion
>that we create a web form for new subscribers.
>
>Do we filter/how do we filter has not been discussed among all of us
>though as a
>means to move things forward I suggested that the outreach group facilitate
>collecting new subscriptions and if anyone has any reservation with any
>subscription we can discuss with other working groups and to members of
>the mail
>list. This is an ad hoc response until we develop something we feel is better.
>
>If others in the mail list can share their opinions and suggestions we
>might be
>able to reach clear consensus. Therefore I again invite any comments on
>this. I
>will have to assume that lack of reply means you have no strong feeling
>one way
>or the other and can accept the situation as is. As with all previous
>feedbacks
>and suggestions the outreach group will try to act on them. However, if there
>are conflicting suggestions we will need to throw discussion back to the
>general
>mail list. So its better if you all give your inputs now.
>
>3. Al has already communicated with the yahoo group and invited them to
>join our
>party but haven't seen any feedback yet.
>
>4. To summarize suggestions:
>
>a. limit to NGO members
>b. open (though no clear criteria)--this is where we are now
>c. no business sector but media should be invited
>
>Any others please?
>
>
>All best,
>
>Sacha
>
>
>
>"tony@fma" wrote:
>
> > Hi Sacha and all,
> >
> > Have we set any clear criteria for those who want to join this mailing
> list?
> > I recall during our meeting in the outreach group Susasanna mentioned that
> > civil society is so broad and that it can also include -- aside from NGOs
> > like us -- media groups and some business associations. Personally I think
> > media groups should be welcome because they could help out in spreading
> word
> > on the WSIS process, though I'm not sure if business associations would
> have
> > the same interests/concerns as ours.
> >
> > Also, have we set up separate mailing lists for the groups (content,
> > outreach, finance, engagement)?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tony
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sacha Jotisalikorn <sacha@forumasia.org>
> > To: <communication@wsisasia.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:15 PM
> > Subject: [communication 049] Re: manual of mailing list
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > A suggestion fleshing out Susanna's idea: for new members wanting to join
> > the list
> > > can we set up a sign-up page on our wsisasia website where people can
> fill
> > in a
> > > form (name, org, contact info, 1-2 sentence description of org).
> Maybe the
> > archives
> > > should be on/linked to this page as well.
> > >
> > > The submitted info can be sent to the outreach group. If there are no
> > immediate
> > > reservations/request to discuss a submission from the outreach group
> > members then
> > > we assume that the submission will be added by Hamada/PatchA.
> > >
> > > If anyone in the outreach group raises any reservations we can
> forward any
> > > discussion to the other working groups or the general mail list.
> > >
> > > Also each new member (with details) will be announced in the general mail
> > list.
> > >
> > > Any comments please?
> > >
> > > All best,
> > > Sacha
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Susanna George wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Taratta,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for setting up the archive. I do agree with Al that its
> > useful
> > > > for those who will join the list later to be able to catch up on.
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to respond to the part about opening up this list to
> others. I
> > > > think the agreement was that we would invite those from the other
> > > > Wsis-Asia@yahoogroups.com list to join this one - and that's one
> > category
> > > > of people who we should include on this list. Al was to write to that
> > list
> > > > and inform that group about the Bangkok meeting and the fact that this
> > new
> > > > list had been set up and suggest a merger of the two lists. I hope
> that
> > > > once Al returns from the meeting at the World Bank, he will be able to
> > do that.
> > > >
> > > > I think the idea of having everyone who signs us to the list to give
> > some
> > > > kind of profile would be useful...but is there a way that we can
> > automate
> > > > that such that once they give their information then they are
> > automatically
> > > > signed on? Or would we like to have an approval process, where perhaps
> > > > Sacha or someone else in the Outreach/Communications team goes through
> > each
> > > > request to join the list? Perhaps we can discuss this in the Outreach
> > > > group list, and make suggestions to this list?
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, I wanted to have two of my colleagues signed onto this list.
> > They
> > > > are Raijeli Nicole <raijeli@isiswomen.org> and Mavic Cabrera Balleza
> > > > <mavic@isiswomen.org> signed onto this list once we have decided to
> > expand
> > > > the list.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you and more later,
> > > > susanna
> > > >
> > > > At 05:53 PM 12/3/02 +0900, you wrote:
> > > > >Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > >On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:08:02 +0800
> > > > >"Alan G. Alegre" <alalegre@codewan.com.ph> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My only concern is archiving of messages--this may be important for
> > > > > > reference and documentation purposes. Is there any way we can go
> > around
> > > > > > this? Suggestions from anyone welcome...
> > > > >
> > > > >I set up the list again to make archive. Messages are archived from
> > > > >number 25. Sorry for late to announce.
> > > > >
> > > > >And I have received some requests to subscribe this list, so we should
> > > > >decide the criteria for joining this list.
> > > > >
> > > > >Sacha wrote,
> > > > > > Should we also propose that new members wanting to join the list
> > provide
> > > > > > some description/explanation of their organization so that we know
> > who
> > > > > > we are?
> > > > >
> > > > >I agree with Sacha. If it's OK, should we announce this list in other
> > > > >lists?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Taratta
> > > > >
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